Favourite Rumi poem.

topic posted Tue, July 20, 2004 - 12:06 AM by  Taika
What is your fave Rumi poem, or part of it ? Here is mine (in Finnish, It´s difficult to translate as it is, I check if I can find it in english and post it later.)

Kun painat huulesi minuun
ja hengität, alan soida.
posted by:
Taika
Finland
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    Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

    Tue, July 20, 2004 - 8:45 AM
    a favorite is impossible to say; it depends on what the moment asks for.

    right now it's this:


    Birdsong brings relief
    to my longing.

    I am just as ecstatic as they are,
    but with nothing to say!

    Please, univresal soul, practice
    some song, or something, through me!

    ^^^

    The way of love is not
    a subtle argument.

    The door there
    is devastation.

    Birds make great sky-circles
    of their freedom.
    How do they learn it?

    They fall, and falling,
    they're given wings.

  • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

    Thu, July 22, 2004 - 9:16 AM
    Love comes with a knife, not some shy question. And not with fears for its reputation! Love is a madman working his wild schemes, tearing off his clothes, running through the mountains, drinking poison and quietly choosing annihilation.
    You've been walking the ocean's edge, holding up your robes to keep them dry. You must dive naked under, and deeper under, a thousand times deeper and deeper under. Love flows down, love flows down. The ground submits to the sky and suffers what comes down, love flows. Tell me, is the earth worse for giving in like that?
    Don't put blankets over the drum. Open completely.

    Yum!
    • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

      Mon, September 13, 2004 - 3:30 PM
      Yeah! Now we're talking. Thanks, Inspector! I really like that one. Here's another:

      This being human is a guesthouse
      Every morning a new arrival
      A joy, a depression, a meanness
      Some momentary awareness
      Comes as an unexpected visitor

      Welcome and entertain them all!
      Even if they're a crowd of sorrows
      Who violently sweep your house
      Empty of its furniture
      Still treat each guest honorably
      He may be cleaning you out
      For some new delight!

      The dark thought, the shame, the malice
      Meet them at the door laughing
      And invite them in
      Be grateful for whoever comes
      Because each has been sent
      As a guide from the beyond

      Rumi/The Guest House
    • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

      Mon, January 10, 2005 - 12:25 AM
      My god, now I'm crying... and I have a new favorite Rumi poem. Thank you.

      Here's my until-recently favorite:
      ______

      Love is reckless, not reason;
      reason seeks a profit.
      Love comes on strong,
      consuming herself, unabashed.

      Yet, in the midst of suffering,
      Love proceeds like a millstone,
      hard surfaced and straightforward.

      Having died of self-interest,
      she risks everything and asks for nothing.

      Love gambles away every gift God bestows.

      Without cause God gave us Being.
      Without cause, give it back again.

      ______

      Thank you, everyone, for this thread, and these tears.

      gregoire
      del ubik
      • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

        Mon, July 18, 2005 - 12:38 AM
        A wonderful Rumi writing

        "All day I think about it, then at night I say it.
        Where did I come from, and what am I supposed to be doing?
        My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that,
        And I intend to end up there.
        This drunkenness began in some other tavern.
        When I get back around to that place I'll be completely sober.
        Meanwhile, I'm like a bird from another continent, sitting in this aviary.
        The day is coming when I fly off,
        But who is it now in my ear, who hears my voice?
        Who says words with my mouth?
        Who looks out with my eyes?
        What is soul?
        I cannot stop asking.
        If I could taste one sip of an answer,
        I could break out of this prison for drunks.
        I didn't come here of my own accord, and I can't leave that way.
        Whoever brought me here will have to take me home!"

        --Mevlana Jalaluddin Rumi
        translated by Coleman Barks
        from "The Illuminated Rumi"
  • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

    Thu, July 22, 2004 - 2:15 PM
    Keep walking, though there's no place to get to.
    Don't try to see through the distances.
    That's not for human beings. Move within,
    But don't move the way fear makes you move.

    *****

    We are the mirror as well as the face of it.
    We are tasting the taste this minute of eternity.
    We are pain and what cures pain, both.
    We are the sweet cold water and the jar that pours.

    *****

    I want to hold you close like a lute,
    so that we can cry out with loving.
    Would you rather throw stones at a mirror?
    I am your mirror and here are the stones.
    • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

      Tue, September 14, 2004 - 3:58 AM
      Kun painat huulesi minuun
      ja hengit ät, alan soida

      it´s something like:

      When you lay your lips on me
      and breath, I begin to chime.
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        Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

        Tue, September 14, 2004 - 2:39 PM
        Reason is powerless
        in the expression of Love.
        Love alone is capable of revealing
        the truth of Love and being a
        Lover. The way of our prophets is
        the way of Truth. If you want to live,
        die in Love; die in Love if you
        want to remain alive.

        ... I soooo love that.

        :o)
        Nakoma
  • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

    Fri, September 17, 2004 - 11:07 AM
    Chime on!!
    Those are all my fovourites.
    • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

      Fri, September 17, 2004 - 11:10 AM
      I went crazy last night, love ran into me and said:
      'I am coming, do not shout, do not tear your clothes, speak no more.'
      'O love!' I said: 'I am afraid of other things.'
      'There is nothing else' it said: 'speak no more.
      I shall whisper hidden words into your ear;
      You just nod in approval! except in secret speak no more!'

      (Divan 2219:1-5)
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        Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

        Fri, March 16, 2007 - 9:36 PM

        ~Kaya Nati~

        My Shams of Tabriz!

        How I miss you so...

        See you in Jannah, inshaAllah~

        Feel you here.... In my heart.
    • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

      Fri, September 17, 2004 - 11:13 PM
      You suppose you are the trouble
      But you are the cure
      You suppose that you are the lock on the door
      But you are the key that opens it
      It’s too bad that you want to be someone else
      You don’t see your own face, your own beauty
      Yet, no face is more beautiful than yours.

      Rumi
      • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

        Sat, September 18, 2004 - 12:11 AM
        Invisible Bee


        Look how desire has changed in you,
        how light and colorless it is,

        with the world growing new marvels
        because of your changing. Your soul

        has become an invisible bee. We
        don't see it working, but there's

        the full honeycomb! Your body's height,
        six feet or so, but your soul rises

        through nine levels of sky. A barrel
        corked with earth and a raw wooden

        spile keeps the oldest vineyard's wine
        inside. When I see you, it is not so

        much your physical form, but the company
        of two riders, your pure-fire devotion

        and your love for the one who teaches you;
        then the sun and moon on foot behind those.

        -Rumi
  • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

    Tue, September 21, 2004 - 6:36 AM
    In truth everything and everyone
    Is a shadow of the Beloved
    And our seeking is His seeking
    And our words are His words...
    We search for Him here and there
    While looking right at Him.
    Sitting by His side, we ask:
    'O Beloved, where is the Beloved?'

    ****

    God turns you from one feeling to another
    And teaches you by means of opposites
    So that you will have two wings to fly
    Not one.

    ****

    Travelers, it is late.
    Life's sun is going to set.
    During these brief days that you have strength,
    Be quick and spare no effort of your wings.

    ****

    Outside ideas of right doing
    And wrong doing,
    There is a field.
    I'll meet you there.
    • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

      Tue, September 21, 2004 - 2:12 PM

      That's a fine one, Denny....

      "Outside ideas of right doing
      And wrong doing,
      There is a field.
      I'll meet you there. "

      I always adored that line. A meeting beyond the confines of judgment. What better space for the "lover" and "beloved" to dance?
      • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

        Wed, September 22, 2004 - 10:57 PM
        Today, like every other day, we wake up empty
        and frightened. Don't open the door to the study
        and begin reading. Take down a musical instrument.

        Let the beauty we love be what we do.
        There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground.
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        Thu, September 23, 2004 - 10:17 AM
        Amen, Inspector.

        If only I could figure out how to stop stepping on the beloved's toes and falling off the stage before the music begins! :)
        • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

          Thu, September 23, 2004 - 2:00 PM
          Indeed, Denny... Perhaps you should let the beloved lead ;)
          • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

            Sat, September 25, 2004 - 5:54 AM
            Here is my favorite:

            Who is at my door?

            He said, "Who is at my door?"
            I said, "Your humble servant."
            He said, "What business do you have?"
            I said, "To greet you, 0 Lord."

            He said, "How long will you journey on?"
            I said, "Until you stop me."
            He said, "How long will you boil in the fire?"
            I said, "Until I am pure.

            "This is my oath of love.
            For the sake of love
            I gave up wealth and position."

            He said, "You have pleaded your case
            but you have no witness."
            I said, "My tears are my witness;
            the pallor of my face is my proof.'
            He said, "Your witness has no credibility;
            your eyes are too wet to see."
            I said, "By the splendor of your justice
            my eyes are clear and faultless."

            He said, "What do you seek?"
            I said, "To have you as my constant friend."
            He said, "What do you want from me?"
            I said, "Your abundant grace."

            He said, "Who was your companion on the 'ourney?
            I said, "The thought of you, 0 King."
            He said, "What called you here?"
            I said, "The fragrance of your wine."

            He said, "What brings you the most fulfillment?"
            I said, "The company of the Emperor."
            He said, "What do you find there?"
            I said, "A hundred miracles."
            He said, "Why is the palace deserted?"
            I said, "They all fear the thief."
            He said, "Who is the thief?"
            I said, "The one who keeps me from -you.

            He said, "Where is there safety?"
            I said, "In service and renunciation."
            He said, "What is there to renounce?"
            I said, "The hope of salvation."

            He said, "Where is there calamity?"
            I said, "In the presence of your love."
            He said, "How do you benefit from this life?"
            I said, "By keeping true to myself

            Now it is time for silence.
            If I told you about His true essence
            You would fly from your self and be gone,
            and neither door nor roof could hold you back!


            Rumi - In the Arms of the Beloved, Jonathan Star
            Jeremy P. Tarcher/Putnam, New York 1997
            • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

              Wed, October 13, 2004 - 6:06 PM
              Subject: Desire and the Importance of Failing - Rumi

              Desire and the Importance of Failing

              A window opens.
              A curtain pulls back.
              The lamps of lovers connect, not at their ceramic bases,
              but in their lightedness.
              No lover wants union with the Beloved
              without the Beloved also wanting the lover.
              Love makes the lover weak, while the Beloved gets strong.
              Lightning from here strikes there.
              When you begin to love God, God is loving you.
              A clapping sound does not come from one hand.
              The thirsty man calls out,
              "Delicious water, where are you?" while the water moans,
              "Where is the water-drinker?"
              The thirst in our souls
              is the attraction put out by the Water itself.
              We belong to It, and It to us.
              God's wisdom made us lovers of one another.
              In fact, all the particles of the world
              are in love and looking for lovers.
              Pieces of straw tremble in the presence of amber.
              We tremble like iron filings welcoming the magnet.
              Whatever that Presence gives us we take in.
              Earth signs feed.
              Water signs wash and freshen.
              Air signs clear the atmosphere.
              Fire signs jiggle the skillet, so we cook without getting burnt.
              And the Holy Spirit helps with everything,
              like a young man trying to support a family.
              We, like the man's young wife, stay home,
              taking care of the house, nursing the children.
              Spirit and matter work together like this, in a division of labor.
              Sweethearts kiss and taste the delight
              before they slip into bed and mate.
              The desire of each lover is that the work of the other be perfected.
              By this man-and-woman cooperation, the world gets preserved.
              Generation occurs.

              Roses and blue arghawan flowers flower.
              Night and day meet in a mutual hug.
              So different, but they do love each other,
              the day and the night, like family.
              And without their mutual alternation we would have no energy.
              Every part of the cosmos draws toward its mate.
              The ground keeps talking to the body, saying, "Come back!
              It's better for you down here where you came from."
              The streamwater calls to the moisture in the body.
              The fiery ether whispers to the body's heat,
              "I am your origin. Come with me."

              Seventy-two diseases are caused
              by the various elements pulling inside the body.
              Disease comes, and the organs fall out of harmony.
              We're like the four different birds,
              that each had one leg tied in with the other birds.
              A flopping bouquet of birds!
              Death releases the binding, and they fly off,
              but before that, their pulling is our pain.
              Consider how the soul must be, in the midst of these tensions,
              feeling its own exalted pull.
              My longing is more profound.
              These birds want the sweet green herbs and the water running by.
              I want the infinite! I want wisdom.
              These birds want orchards and meadows and vines with fruit on them.
              I want a vast expansion.
              They want profit and the security of having enough food.
              Remember what the soul wants, because in that,
              eternity is wanting our souls!
              Which is the meaning of the text,
              They love That, and That loves them.
              If I keep on explaining this,
              the Mathnawi will run to eighty volumes!

              The gist is: whatever anyone seeks, that is seeking the seeker.
              No matter if it's animal, or vegetable, or mineral.
              Every bit of the universe is filled with wanting,
              And whatever any bits wants, wants the wanter!
              This subject must dissolve again.
              Back to Sadri Jahan and the uneducated peasant who loved him,
              So that gradually Sadri Jahan loved the lowly man.
              But who really attracted who, whoom, Huuuu?
              Don't be presumptuous and say one or the other. Close your lips.
              The mystery of loving is God's sweetest secret.
              Keep it. Bury it.
              Leave it here where I leave it,
              drawn as I am by the pull of the Puller to something else.
              You know how it is.
              Sometimes we plan a trip to one place,
              but something takes us to another.
              When a horse is being broken,
              the trainer pulls it in many different directions,
              So the horse will come to know what it is to be ridden.
              The most beautiful and alert horse
              is one completely attuned to the rider.

              God fixes a passionate desire in you, and then disappoints you.
              God does that a hundred times!
              God breaks with wings of one intention and then gives you another,
              Cuts the rope of contriving, so you'll remember your dependence.
              But sometimes, your plans work out!
              You feel fulfilled and in control.

              That's because, if you were always failing, you might give up.
              But remember, it is by failures
              that lovers stay aware of how they're loved.

              Failure is the key to the kingdom within.
              Your prayer should be, "Break the legs of what I want to happen.
              Humiliate my desire. Eat me like candy.
              It's spring, and finally, I have no will."

              ~Mathnawi III: 4391-4472 Version by Coleman Barks
              "Feeling the Shoulder of the Lion" Threshold Books, 1991
            • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

              Wed, October 13, 2004 - 6:06 PM
              Subject: Desire and the Importance of Failing - Rumi

              Desire and the Importance of Failing

              A window opens.
              A curtain pulls back.
              The lamps of lovers connect, not at their ceramic bases,
              but in their lightedness.
              No lover wants union with the Beloved
              without the Beloved also wanting the lover.
              Love makes the lover weak, while the Beloved gets strong.
              Lightning from here strikes there.
              When you begin to love God, God is loving you.
              A clapping sound does not come from one hand.
              The thirsty man calls out,
              "Delicious water, where are you?" while the water moans,
              "Where is the water-drinker?"
              The thirst in our souls
              is the attraction put out by the Water itself.
              We belong to It, and It to us.
              God's wisdom made us lovers of one another.
              In fact, all the particles of the world
              are in love and looking for lovers.
              Pieces of straw tremble in the presence of amber.
              We tremble like iron filings welcoming the magnet.
              Whatever that Presence gives us we take in.
              Earth signs feed.
              Water signs wash and freshen.
              Air signs clear the atmosphere.
              Fire signs jiggle the skillet, so we cook without getting burnt.
              And the Holy Spirit helps with everything,
              like a young man trying to support a family.
              We, like the man's young wife, stay home,
              taking care of the house, nursing the children.
              Spirit and matter work together like this, in a division of labor.
              Sweethearts kiss and taste the delight
              before they slip into bed and mate.
              The desire of each lover is that the work of the other be perfected.
              By this man-and-woman cooperation, the world gets preserved.
              Generation occurs.

              Roses and blue arghawan flowers flower.
              Night and day meet in a mutual hug.
              So different, but they do love each other,
              the day and the night, like family.
              And without their mutual alternation we would have no energy.
              Every part of the cosmos draws toward its mate.
              The ground keeps talking to the body, saying, "Come back!
              It's better for you down here where you came from."
              The streamwater calls to the moisture in the body.
              The fiery ether whispers to the body's heat,
              "I am your origin. Come with me."

              Seventy-two diseases are caused
              by the various elements pulling inside the body.
              Disease comes, and the organs fall out of harmony.
              We're like the four different birds,
              that each had one leg tied in with the other birds.
              A flopping bouquet of birds!
              Death releases the binding, and they fly off,
              but before that, their pulling is our pain.
              Consider how the soul must be, in the midst of these tensions,
              feeling its own exalted pull.
              My longing is more profound.
              These birds want the sweet green herbs and the water running by.
              I want the infinite! I want wisdom.
              These birds want orchards and meadows and vines with fruit on them.
              I want a vast expansion.
              They want profit and the security of having enough food.
              Remember what the soul wants, because in that,
              eternity is wanting our souls!
              Which is the meaning of the text,
              They love That, and That loves them.
              If I keep on explaining this,
              the Mathnawi will run to eighty volumes!

              The gist is: whatever anyone seeks, that is seeking the seeker.
              No matter if it's animal, or vegetable, or mineral.
              Every bit of the universe is filled with wanting,
              And whatever any bits wants, wants the wanter!
              This subject must dissolve again.
              Back to Sadri Jahan and the uneducated peasant who loved him,
              So that gradually Sadri Jahan loved the lowly man.
              But who really attracted who, whoom, Huuuu?
              Don't be presumptuous and say one or the other. Close your lips.
              The mystery of loving is God's sweetest secret.
              Keep it. Bury it.
              Leave it here where I leave it,
              drawn as I am by the pull of the Puller to something else.
              You know how it is.
              Sometimes we plan a trip to one place,
              but something takes us to another.
              When a horse is being broken,
              the trainer pulls it in many different directions,
              So the horse will come to know what it is to be ridden.
              The most beautiful and alert horse
              is one completely attuned to the rider.

              God fixes a passionate desire in you, and then disappoints you.
              God does that a hundred times!
              God breaks with wings of one intention and then gives you another,
              Cuts the rope of contriving, so you'll remember your dependence.
              But sometimes, your plans work out!
              You feel fulfilled and in control.

              That's because, if you were always failing, you might give up.
              But remember, it is by failures
              that lovers stay aware of how they're loved.

              Failure is the key to the kingdom within.
              Your prayer should be, "Break the legs of what I want to happen.
              Humiliate my desire. Eat me like candy.
              It's spring, and finally, I have no will."

              ~Mathnawi III: 4391-4472 Version by Coleman Barks
              "Feeling the Shoulder of the Lion" Threshold Books, 1991
  • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

    Fri, November 5, 2004 - 2:48 PM
    Bittersweet

    In my Hallucination
    I saw my Beloved's flower garden

    In my vertigo
    In my dizziness
    In my drunken haze
    whirling and dancing
    like a spinning wheel
    I saw myself
    as the source of existence

    I was there in the beginning
    and i was the spirit of love

    Now I am sober
    There is only the hangover
    and the memory of love
    And only the sorrow

    I yearn for happiness
    I ask for help
    I want mercy

    And my love says

    Look at me and hear me
    because i'm here just for that

    I am your moon
    and your moonlight too
    I am your flower garden
    and your water too

    I have come all this way
    eager for you
    without shoes or shawl

    I want to laugh
    to kill all your worries
    to love you
    to nourish you

    Oh Sweet Bitterness!
    I will soothe you and heal you
    I will bring you roses
    I too have been covered with thorns
    • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

      Mon, November 15, 2004 - 11:34 PM
      Those who don't feel this Love
      pulling them like a river,
      those who don't drink dawn
      like a cup of spring water
      or take in sunset like supper,
      those who don't want to change,

      let them sleep.

      This Love is beyond the study of theology,
      that old trickery and hypocrisy.
      I you want to improve your mind that way,

      sleep on.

      I've given up on my brain.
      I've torn the cloth to shreds
      and thrown it away.

      If you're not completely naked,
      wrap your beautiful robe of words
      around you,

      and sleep.
      • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

        Thu, November 18, 2004 - 12:12 AM
        The time has come to turn your heart
        into a temple of fire.
        Your essence is gold hidden in dust.
        To reveal its splendor
        you must burn in the fire of love.
        • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

          Mon, November 29, 2004 - 7:42 PM
          this one just makes me melt:

          show me your face
          i crave
          flowers and gardens
          open your lips
          i crave
          the taste of honey
          come out from
          behind the clouds
          i desire a sunny face
          your voice echoed
          saying "leave me alone"
          i wish to hear your voice
          again saying "leave me alone"
          i swear this city without you
          is a prison
          i am dying to get out
          to roam in deserts and mountains
          i am tired of
          flimsy friends and
          submissive companions
          i die to walk with the brave
          am blue hearing
          nagging voices and meek cries
          i desire loud music
          drunken parties and
          wild dance
          one hand holding
          a cup of wine
          one hand caressing your hair
          then dancing in orbital circle
          that is what i yearn for
          i can sing better than any nightingale
          but because of
          this city's freaks
          i seal my lips
          while my heart weeps
          yesterday the wisest man
          holding a lit lantern
          in daylight
          was searching around town saying
          i am tired of
          all these beasts and brutes
          i seek
          a true human
          we have all looked
          for one but
          no one could be found
          they said
          yes he replied
          but my search is
          for the one
          who cannot be found
  • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

    Tue, November 30, 2004 - 9:49 AM
    The Guest House

    This being human is a guest house.
    Every morning a new arrival.
    A joy, a depression, a meanness,
    some momentary awareness comes
    as an unexpected visitor.
    Welcome and entertain them all!
    Even if they are a crowd of sorrows,
    who violently sweep your house
    empty of its furniture,
    still, treat each guest honorably.
    He may be clearing you out
    for some new delight.
    The dark thought, the shame, the malice.
    meet them at the door laughing and invite them in.
    Be grateful for whatever comes.
    because each has been sent
    as a guide from beyond.
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      Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

      Tue, December 7, 2004 - 8:03 PM
      My favorite Rumi poem?
      Give me his complete works, and say



      Like This.
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        Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

        Tue, December 7, 2004 - 8:31 PM
        The human shape is a ghost
        made of distraction and pain.
        Sometimes pure light, sometimes cruel,
        trying wildly to open,
        this image tightly held within itself.

        ~Rumi
  • Re: Favourite Rumi poem.

    Wed, December 8, 2004 - 3:41 AM
    as someone who believes she's found her soul mate..it has to be :-

    Two Forms, One Soul

    Happy is the moment, when we sit together,
    With two forms, two faces, yet one soul,
    you and I.

    The flowers will bloom forever,
    The birds will sing their eternal song,
    The moment we enter the garden,
    you and I.

    The stars of heaven will come out to watch us,
    And we will show them
    the light of a full moon –
    you and I.

    No more thought of "you" and "I."
    Just the bliss of union –
    Joyous, alive, free of care, you and I.

    All the bright-winged birds of heaven
    Will swoop down to drink of our sweet water –
    The tears of our laughter, you and I.

    What a miracle of fate, us sitting here.
    Even at the opposite ends of the earth
    We would still be together, you and I.

    We have one form in this world,
    another in the next.

    To us belongs an eternal heaven,
    the endless delight of you and I.


    by Rumi